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    Posted: by MCFergy (21 days ago)
    This is one of the best presentations I’ve seen, especially regarding the New Testament, “It may change the way sin is dealt with, but the New Testament does not change what sin is.” Are we such arrogant children that we would have Almighty God submitting to our desires?
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    Posted: by inescbas (119 days ago)
    Fantastic - as clear as crystal..............
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    Posted: by GodGunsGutsGlory (139 days ago)
    Also people need to be careful referencing slavery in the bible.
    While there were slaves in the...

    Many people who are "servants" are not bound in shackles or forced to work. They are servants by choice who would otherwise be in poverty and not be able to cloth/feed themselves. So not every scripture about a "servant" was meaning they were a bound slave.

    That is the way it was and should NOT be compared to slaves of Blacks, etc. Which we know was wrong.
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    Posted: by pandamon (348 days ago)
    You were born black. You cannot help being black. A hundred and fifty years ago, people would say you were cursed with simply being biologically inferior. "[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts." -- Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy. This was a prevailing opinion through much of his time, and before. Do you see the analogy? That's the point people are making when they bring up the civil rights movement. Because really, the gay rights struggle is a civil rights issue in its truest form, definitionally: a quest for social equality.
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    Posted: by JHancock1776 (1 year ago)
    This was banned from YouTube? That is really lame on their part...keep up the good work Zo!!!
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    Posted: by Heathhall2004 (1 year ago)
    im confused what do consider "normal"? because you don't view it that way then it is not right some ppl don't view monogamous relationships as normal that doesn't make it wrong just different and not for you btw normality is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
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    Posted: by Noodle (1 year ago)
    Homosexuality is not normal, period. Thank you 'Zo for stating the obvious so eloquently. YouTubes's loss, our gain. God bless.
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    Posted: by Heathhall2004 (1 year ago)
    If you dont care what i do then why care about the marriage thing. And as far as the linking up with the civil rights movement its just a comparison like doctor king did between the civil right movement and moses leading the Israelites but I just have a few things

    #1- Marriage wasnt created by christiany or judism its actually older than greek culture and you can get married without going through relgion atheists do it all the time
    #2- In America we are supposed to have this nifty little thing known as seperation of church and state so really shouldnt matter either way
    #3- but just remember that the divorce is 70% and that's all on ya'll
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    Posted: by HisWheeler (1 year ago)
    Excellently said!!!!!!! Blessings my precious brother in Christ!
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    Posted: by kosimpson (1 year ago)
    Ya I don't know why they're always trying to link the real civil rights struggle of blacks with the largely imaginary struggle of those identifying themselves as homosexuals. Youtube is probably afraid to show a black man speaking against "gay marriage" because it doesn't fit their agenda. Go to Barnes Ignoble. They usually put the black section right next to LGBT. If I was black I'd be especially pissed. Men who sodomize other men are not the least bit similar to someone born a certain race.
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    Posted: by kwazi6 (1 year ago)
    If u wanna use religion fine, but it's much better to discuss the negative effects on society.
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    Posted: by wallgirl10 (1 year ago)
    Keep them coming!
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    Posted: by RockTheFacts (1 year ago)
    Very well said - thank you
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    Posted: by 3monkeysmomma (1 year ago)
    Youtube is definately out to get conservatives!

    Glad I found you here too, Alfonzo. God bless you.
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    Posted: by therealcaptobvious (1 year ago)
    MSP,

    I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY TOOK YOU OFF OF YOUTUBE!!! They're playing a lot of games over there. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you said.

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    Posted: by MissD42 (1 year ago)
    Hear, hear!! Well said dude!! Thanks for sharing.
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    Posted: by SeekerNLife (1 year ago)
    Great video. Spot on!
    Homosexuals rejected the...
    Very well...we did.
    But now, they demand that we change our standards to include their same-sex 'marriages'.
    I say: NO Way!
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    Posted: by rebelstang (1 year ago)
    GOD Created Adam & Eve!
    NOT adam & steve!
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    Posted: by Humble (1 year ago)
    Great video. I"m glad it is here. I had seen it was removed from Youtube.
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    Posted: by Emeraldzt (1 year ago)
    This is one of your best videos yet. Keep up the great work, PLEASE!
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    Posted: by BernardChapin (1 year ago)
    You're one of the most important guys making videos today man.
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    Posted: by Arborius (1 year ago)
    jaded1 Jesus said it is not what goes into your mouth but what comes out of it that makes you unclean. Jesus only put restrictions on consuming blood and eating animals that were strangled. The story of Lot & his 2 daughters is not condoned at any point in the Bible it only tells of the story. To me it is a story of the evils of alcohol abuse & the evil influence of Saddam and Gamora on his daughters continuing even after they left.
    Separation of church and state isn't part of the constitution it is basically a liberal talking point taken out of context from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a baptist preacher to assure him that the government would not interfere in his churches teachings.
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    Posted: by waegwan2000 (1 year ago)
    Legally, It's a very poorly written law. The union was never meant to include same sex marriages and therefore can't afford same same marriages. Aside from the religious argument, If you truly want same sex unions then you must destroy the democracy and establish a republic in which no one would question your unions. I, like my brother above, don't care what you do in your bedroom. But forcing us to accept it is counter to societies current wishes. That's why it hasn't passed. You are about to have a truly socialist government. Do you think socialism will be able to tolerate, lest afford, same sex unions? Look at the examples around the globe of socialist states and tell me which has recognized same sex unions with the provisions you want written into the laws of this government?
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    Posted: by Stefan (1 year ago)
    "Yet the bible tells us how Lot left S&G and went
    to a new land with his...

    I'd like you to take another look at the Bible and see if you can find anywhere it says that God approved of that. People cherry-picking their stories from the Bible and using text out of context is such a weak form of debate, and yet I see it all the time. For the record, just because something is mentioned in the Bible it doesn't automatically get God's approval. The Bible talks about rape, incest, murder, drunkenness, infanticide, witchcraft, and just about any other bad thing you can think of.

    Also, Old Testament ceremonial distinctions of the law were abrogated in the New Testament (Acts 10:9-15), so the earlier rant about shell-fish and menstruating women is moot.

    Now then, people point out that marriage is hardly sacred anymore with divorce rates on the rise and other such statistics. This is a sad fact, but it doesn't mean that marriage isn't sacred. It just means that sinful man no longer treats it as such. If someone is against homosexual marriage because they wish to protect the sanctity of marriage but cheat on their spouse, they're hypocrites of course. It doesn't change God's law.
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    Posted: by bitty11 (1 year ago)
    if marriage was even somewhat as sanctified as God wants it to be, then maybe the whole "protect marriage" argument would work. you're pretty ignorant for a smart person, what a waste of intelligence.
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    Posted: by Renaissance (1 year ago)
    Let's not forget what HE told Mary regarding prostitution, HE said, "Go and sin no more." :-)
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    Posted: by Renaissance (1 year ago)
    Just beautiful. Keep up the great work. In HIS name.
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    Posted: by gillahooley (1 year ago)
    just a little somethin for all you who keep saying that this man is discriminating against you. he plainly said that he could care less what you do. he only said that god has called homosexuality an abomination. he didn't say anything about anything else like the coment that says abraham had 700 wives. or that a woman on her period is unclean and shouldn't be touched, which i actually believe to an extent, but how many woman really have a regular 7 day period every month. thats all beside the point. the point he is making is that god calls homosexuality an abomination. and that god should not be asked to bless that union. god doesn't say not to love you or to discriminate against you for it. but he does lay out several very clear sins throughout the bible and all those who die in their sins will face a terrible form of eternity
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    Posted: by superben4 (1 year ago)
    Yes it says that it is wrong. It also states that people are born with sin.
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    Posted: by WideLoadofTruth (1 year ago)
    For all that believe homosexuals are born that why... why does the Bible say other wise? Romans 1 states if plainly but Old testament says it is wrong not a illness.
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    Posted: by jaded1 (1 year ago)
    TheGoalie: You are comparing life in Iraq to the USA? Are you serious? If you want to live as such, I implore you to pick up your family and go on ahead over to Iraq.

    As for preaching the bible. It always amazes me the conservative right bullet pointing the bible to their benefit. Now, do you still follow the rules of no pork? Do you refrain from sitting where a woman who is menstruating for seven days? She is unclean and you are to have NO contact with her. Now, in this country, if you have more than one wife, you are a criminal. Also, if you sleep with your child, you are the lowest of the lowest criminals. Yet the bible tells us how Lot left S&G and went to a new land with his daughters who "gave him drink and layed with him to receive his seed." Abraham had 700 wives. It goes on and on and on. Yet, we focus on the homosexuals. Of course we do. I am also sick to death of the stereotype that homos are leftist democrats with no morals. I voted McCain/Palin because I supported their ideals. Even though Palin disagreed with the lifestyle, she supported each individuals rights and each states right to choose. Separation of church and state. She stood for that. People have failed to realize that she truly was the REAL DEAL politician. Exactly what we needed. Machosauce has too many "opinions" to be a fair candidate for politics. Intelligence alone does not make a politician. Look at George W.! You must represent a country. You must put aside prejudices and find common ground. You must implement policies that will protect a nation and keep your people proud of their country. Imposing your religious propaganda is exactly what we are fighting in other countries. Again, if this is your wish, move there.
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    Posted: by TheGoalie (1 year ago)
    I am a 35 yr old white man who voted for McCain/Palin because even though our economy sucks right now history shows that the economy is ALWAYS going to fluctuate but without national security the economy doesnt mean squat. You wouldnt go into another country for example Iraq and force your beliefs on them so why do you insist on doing it to the majority of America who agrees that marriage should be between a man and a woman. As for you Mr MACHOSAUCE, I just recently learned of you on Mark Levins website and I have to say I am very impressed with how well educated you are on the issues and must say I look forward to many more of your videos. Oh and, have you ever thought of running for office? LOL Keep up the good work its people like you who are going to help rebuild the conservitive movement. God bless you and yes I agree with you Sarah Palin is SHAAAWING!!!!! Also I was wondering if you could do a video on what you think of the way Sarah Palin is being treated after the election. I would be curious as to what your thoughts and opinons are on the situation.

    CJ
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    Posted: by TheGoalie (1 year ago)
    I am so sick of hearing about gay relationships being compared to slavery and discrimination. They are two totaly different things. For those of you who obviously dont know squat about our founding fathers and the constitution heres a bit of a history lesson. This country was founded on the "Principals of GOD" not gays!!! If you choose to be gay thats your choice and I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the fact that all of the gay community continues to try and force us to accept something the majority of this country does not want to accept. As a parent I am so sick of seeing commercials for gay chat lines and websites on TV. And I am sick and tired of having my 9yr old daughter and 7yr old son asking me what does it mean. STOP forcing us to have to see that crap. I respect everyones right of choice (except for abortion) but I dont think my kids or myself should be forced to see, watch or listen to how great you people think homosexuality is. Its your choice dont force it on the rest of us. I think its obvious with the prop 8 ban that the people of California feel the same way. So get over it. We conservatives have to accept that Obama won the election why dont you people show a little class and accept the fact that the rest of America doesnt want your beliefs forced on us.
    CJ
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    Posted: by jaded1 (1 year ago)
    For someone who comes across to be so intelligent, you should not discuss things you do not know about. I am not black, so I won't discuss your struggles. Your not gay, so don't discuss the gay struggle. Also, gay people may not have been subjected to slavery, but they have been outcast and murdered for simply loving. Furthemore, your idea of a "homosexually privatized" pot to draw from is insane. This way it has nothing to do with you?? Well in that case, all homosexual tax dollars are to remain free and clear of "straight" people's needs and pockets. Homosexuals pay taxes just like you do young man. To continue, procreation. Look at the welfare system and children's services that the "straight" people have created. Oh yes, God's will.
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    Posted: by MidwesternBOB (1 year ago)
    WOOT!!! Preach brother, PREACH!!!
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    Posted: by jameslowe (1 year ago)
    You're black, a group of people which have been subjected to MUCH discrimination through out history, yet you support a law which would impose discrimination on people? You're people had to fight for freedom against slavery, for the right to sit at the front of a public bus, for the right to use the same restrooms and drinking fountains as everyone else, for the right to vote, for the right to own property, and even for the right to marry someone who is not the same race as you, YET you STILL believe it is okay for the government to discriminate against people? Have you learned nothing from history? I don't think you would like it either if the government wanted to ban you from doing something just because you were black.
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    Posted: by bvandebunte (1 year ago)
    Absolutely awesome! You know how to tell it, brother!
    Keep running strong, for Him!...
    insight, wisdom, and articulation to get His message out to this blind, needy, and hurting world. Love you... becuz of Him.
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    Posted: by bvandebunte (1 year ago)
    Absolutely awesome! You know how to tell it, brother!
    Keep running strong, for Him!...
    insight, wisdom, and articulation to get His message out to this blind, needy, and hurting world. Love you... becuz of Him.
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    Posted: by xtallake (1 year ago)
    These clowns that are commenting about civil vs religious marriages. Heres the point.....homosexuality is a condition...as alcoholism is a condition. We need to cure these conditions, not accept them. You dont need rights, you need help.
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    Posted: by GospeLgAngstA (1 year ago)
    yeah KMA, u tell 'em...
    MACHO, u and i have the same...
    but you, sir are much more eloquent than I
    thx for speaking up for the rest of us, keep it up
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    Posted: by Divine (1 year ago)
    Hey? What happened to my long well written post?
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    Posted: by KMA (1 year ago)
    If Macho will allow me, I think I'll jump in and take on at least some of the "reverend"'s arguments.

    #1 It doesn't matter what YOU call tyranny. He, ans well as everyone else, has the right to use whatever standard they see fit to shape their culture as they want it-which is what he is, in essence, doing here. In fact, you are trying to stop him from making his argument based on what YOU believe. There is no difference at this point in what either of you are attempting, and therefore, his argument is no less valid than yours.
    #2 Straw men are great at Halloween, but not in logical arguments-which is what you are attempting to "school"him on. What Solomon had was a privileged life, where he got to have the rules he wanted, thus all the wives/concubines. It has no bearing on Gay marriage, because there is nothing to suggest he was engaged in one. In fact, it was a settled issue in Israel's societal culture, throughout history, that homosexual acts were forbidden and punishable. If your (weak) attempt was to show that leaders in the Bible didn't follow what was expected of them by God, you are missing the point. We all fail; we all get it wrong in our attempts, and Solomon was no different. And, he paid a price for his disobedience. Sorry if it wasn't up to your standards.

    #3 I'm not exactly sure WHAT you're trying to argue here. That not everyone likes the idea of life-after-death? That not everyone likes the idea of an immortal "spirit" or "soul"? So what?? Just because you don't like it doesn't exist/isn't true-just like someone liking the idea doesn't mean it IS true. And, "so you impose and assume this into your
    arguments." Huh??? I mean, he's allowed to put whatever elements he wants into his argument. If you don't like them, so what?

    #4 I don't know enough about his argument to address this. Perhaps he draws a distinction between "civil union" and "gay marriage"? If he's saying the gay community has those rights without there being a need to allow gay "marriage", go right and refute that as you see fit.

    #5 Gotta love it when anyone throws this out to individuals. The First Amendment is FOR citizens-it can't be applied against them. In fact, if he can't impose his religious beliefs onto other citizens, neither can you (or, your lack of them). It works both ways, but neither of you are "government entities", and therefore can have whatever convictions you want, can put them into effect as you see fit, etc.

    #7 So? If you don't share the faith, you don't get to dictate how those that do share it live it. Besides, did he call eating shellfish an abomination of the "ritually unclean" kind, or the "moral law" kind? What did he say about homosexual acts? C'mon...do the detective work and read the entire context of the sections in question.

    #7 Ahh...the "decent evidence" clause. Just who determines what makes evidence "decent" or not? You? Why should you get to determine it for the rest of humanity? I find the evidence to be more than decent, and I really could care less if you, or anyone else, disagree. In fact, why don't you swing your "judgment" pendulum back in your own direction? You want to use your assumptions (and we all know about "assumptions"...) as an authority in society, but you aren't in any better of a position to do so than Macho is. What gives YOU the right? And, on a side note, you talk about taking peoples' rights away. You do realize that the rights that are defined in our government are considered to come from our "Creator", and not man himself, right? In that case, if you don't believe in God, how can you avail yourself the rights enumerated in the Constitution? It doesn't make much sense to claim them, but disavow their Originator. And if you don't see any discrepancy there (God help you), just how DO you explain it? That the Founding Fathers were wrong about our "Creator"? Then, how do you know that they didn't get it wrong about "rights"???
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    Posted: by reverendjeremiah (1 year ago)
    There is a MAJOR problem with your argument. As soon as you use your god as an excuse to oppose gay marriage you have lost all grounds to stand on. #1 - Are you going to use your religious beliefs to stand between the love of 2 people who ARE NOT Christians? Thats what I call tyranny. #2 - What is a traditional marriage? Is that what Solomon had with 800 wives and 200+ concubines? #3 - You assume that everyone wants to exist for eternity, so you impose and assume this into your arguments. Major fail! #4 - All of the benefits you agreed that gay couples could have at the beginning of this video IS the same benefits that married couples have.. but you say you are against gay marriage? You sound VERY confussed on the issue. #5 - 1st amendment! You cant impose your religious beliefs onto other citizens. Your entire argument against the rights of gay marriage are ALL religious ones. #6 - God called many things abominations, including eating shrimp and shell fish. #7 - there is not one SHRED of decent evidence that your god exists or that your religion is even the correct one, yet you want to use this assumption as an authority to remove millions of peoples rights?

    I can tell you are an intelligent person. Please, when you get the chance, look up the logical laws of an argument.
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    Posted: by Machosauceproduction (1 year ago)
    ALENV: The law of opposites is hardly exclusive to Marxism.
    Wow, and WE get called narrow...
    and makes God even more real. Wow, the law of opposites is a Marxist philosophy, that's funny, and sad at the same time,
    Wowwee, look! opposites again!
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    Posted: by devilsadvocate (1 year ago)
    First, let me say that I am not gay, however, I do find this is an interesting topic. Very touchy since religion is in the picture.

    I agree with your ideas on most aspects, however, there are a few topics that are debatable.

    If you believe that people are born gay, does that not mean that God intended them to be gay? Thus, God accepts gays, correct?

    As far as marriage goes, there are two types of marriage. Religious marriage and civil marriage. The ceremony in which marriage happens is called a wedding where (most of the time) both a religious and civil marriage occur.

    A civil marriage is a legally binding contract with legal consequences, whereas a religious marriage is more of an oath with religious consequences.

    The reason why we have a civil marriage is because the First Amendment denies the government the ability to legally respect an establishment of religion. Consequently, the religious marriage as well.

    The "abomination" in which you refer would be in the traditional religious marriage, where a man and a woman join in "holy" matrimony.

    If you are only referring to a religious marriage, depending on the religion, you are absolutely correct. However, on a civil level, its actually quite unconstitutional to disallow gay and polygamous marriages. As for the animals... an animal cannot enter a contract, thus an animal cannot marry anything.
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    Posted: by AELNV (1 year ago)
    The Law of Opposites is a Marxist philosophy used in part to explain the origin of life. It has nothing to do with God and in fact dismisses the plausibility of god.

    Yet you use it in your rant? IDK, maybe I'm missing something. here
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    Posted: by entrepreneurmom (1 year ago)
    I am hooked! I followed the link from YoyTube! Honestly, I can't get enough! You are so on target it's crazy. May God bless you and use you mightly to quicken the hearts and minds of his remenant, expanding the bounderies of His kingdom for His glory! May God bless you, prosper you, and keep you, making His face shine upon you. TGBTG!
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    Posted: by againsttheherd (1 year ago)
    You're brilliant as usual!
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    Posted: by billmason (1 year ago)
    You are on fire Sir. Very hard to dispute anything you are presenting. Only one thing. I believe that there are a few homosexuals born that way but I firmly believe that the rest are guided by co dependence. I believe they have developed alternative thinking as a way to overcome emotional challenges (emotional shackles of the past). I think this falls into the category of all other sorts of addictions, sexual and otherwise that plague mankind. I could be wrong but to me it makes sense when one considers that studies show that 97% of all homosexuals first encounters are coerced. It is only a part of an individual's personality but all the parts contribute to our sense of sexuality and self. I think it is getting more prevalent in our society because we are drifting so far from the traditional roles of character and strength. Outside of this thought you own this argument. In a big way. Thanks for the ammunition when we all face this argument over and over (and over) again.
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    Posted: by jerecoe (1 year ago)
    Nicely done; a thinking man logically applying God's natural Law is a powerful thing! Now suppose, gay 'marriage' for two homosexuals becomes legal & that 'discrimination' has ended... and along come three people who want to get 'married.' Must we also allow them to get married too? If not, why not? If we allow human threesomes, then what about people & animals -- we don't want to discriminate, right?!?


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